From: SMTP%"LISTSERV@BINGVMB.cc.binghamton.edu" 7-JAN-1996 13:57:38.58 To: CIRJA02 CC: Subj: File: "INDEX-L LOG9511D" Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 08:11:08 +0000 From: BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.8a) Subject: File: "INDEX-L LOG9511D" To: CIRJA02@GSVMS1.CC.GASOU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:11:34 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Mark Leger Subject: Re: Other Internet newsgroups, e.g. the Well ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hi, The Well is an Internet Service Provider and happenin' BBS in the San Francisco Bay Area. It's owned by the the same folks that do the Whole Earth Catalog and has this eclectic hippie techno-flavor, with (by all reports) fascinating forums on technology and social transformation. I drop in on some of their Web sites now and then - for instance, they host the FactSheet 5 e-zine directory. Worth a visit, but there's probably not a whole lot about indexing, though. >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >Are there any Internet discussion groups apart from Index-L? I have heard >vaguely of the Well, which sounds like a writing-related group. > >Is there discussion of indexing on the Well, and is it readily accessible to >all Internet subscribers? > >If so, how is it different in its approach and content to Index-L? > >Thanks in advance, > > >Glenda Browne. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >Jonathan Jermey & Glenda Browne >(Blue Mountains Desktop Pty Ltd. - ACN 071 232 016) >Blaxland NSW Australia >jonathan@magna.com.au >http://www.magna.com.au/~jonathan >Australian Wildlife in the Cheese Shop: "We had some, but the cat's eaten it." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:11:49 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Hazel Blumberg-McKee Subject: Footnotes and editors In-Reply-To: <199511201815.AA28906@mailer.fsu.edu> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Sonsie Conroy posed the question, "Where are the editors?" Good question, I think. I edit, as well as index. Once upon a time, publishers would send me manuscripts that authors had labored over. Publishers would tell me to take all the time I needed to make the manuscript as good as I possibly could. I was allowed to do heavy edits and even rewrites. I moved things around to make the text flow. Nowadays, almost no one asks for a heavy edit or a rewrite. Manuscripts come in looking like first drafts. They're often scribbled on scrap paper. Sometimes the authors tear pages out of books and tape them to a sheet of scrap paper and scribble on them. The publishers tell me to do a light edit. The publishers tell me not to move any paragraphs around. One publisher told me to "just turn the pages." Publishers tell me how many pages per hour I must edit. Publishers complain if I spend too long on a project. Faster! Faster! I received a proofreading project not that long ago. Supposedly, it had already been edited by someone who had knowledge of the field. I was just to correct any little errors I found. Well, I was knowledgeable about that field, too. And I found horrible errors. I called the editor for whom I was working and told him what I'd been finding. "Oh, don't worry about it," he said. "Nobody cares. Besides, there's a disclaimer at the beginning of the book." Where are the editors? They're doing "editing lite," which is what their clients request. Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:12:00 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: REvans4@aol.com Subject: Re: Heavy vs. Light Indexing ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In a message dated 95-11-20 13:17:18 EST, you write: > It >would go forever since you have the potential of 26 letter groups on each >page. In CINDEX you can turn off the separator headers and print everything in a reasonable amount of paper. I usually check against the screen, but I occasionally have an assistant check the page numbers and I give her a printed page-sequence version. Dick Evans ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:12:12 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Conroy Subject: Re: Heavy vs. Light Indexing In-Reply-To: <199511201816.KAA31522@biggulp.callamer.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Craig, that's about what I figured one would do. And I =have= done this, when I had doubts about having covered a specific topic (or chapter) well enough. My question still remains...do YOU do this with every book? Does anybody? I probably do this on one out of ten projects, and then I can't recall ever having done it for an entire 750-page book. =Sonsie= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:12:23 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: MaryMort@aol.com Subject: Re: Checking page numbers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >Sonsie asked: > >But does anyone check each and every page number? If so, what's the most >efficient way to do it? I do, with every index, but it may be because I have less than a year's (paid) experience. However, I plan to continue, because I do other kinds of editing at the same time. After a first editing pass at the alphabetical index, I print a page-number order version of it (from Macrex) and go through the proofs again, making decisions about wording, optional entries (if there's a length restriction) and consistency. I also check the spelling of names (and other words that my spell checker won't know.) I find only one or two wrong page numbers in my indexes usually, but this double-checking makes me feel much more comfortable about the accuracy of the index. Of course, I probably miss some mistakes, too. BTW, I thought everyone did this! Mary -- * Mary Mortensen * marymort@aol.com * 318 Main St. # 20 * 201-514-1710 * Madison, NJ 07940 * USA ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:12:33 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: BECohen653@aol.com Subject: Local STC meeting, Illinois ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Barbara E. Cohen, professional indexer and secretary of the American Society of Indexers, and Scott Smith, technical writer at Spyglass, will be speaking on INDEXING TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS at the next meeting of the Central Illinois chapter of the Society for Technical Communication, on Tuesday, November 28, at 7-8:30 pm at the Champaign Public Library, 505 S. Randolph Street. Champaign, IL. Anyone interested in the indexing of technical documentation is welcome to attend. RSVP to Bob Harr, (217) 384-8579 (days) or bharr@urbana.mcd.mot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:12:46 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: JClendenen@aol.com Subject: Re: To classify, or not? ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions on classifying the Quality Network programs. I hope this program works for GM; so far I haven't seen an overall improvement in car reliability, but with a really big corporation, it takes time, I guess. I decided to go with keeping the program titles as separate entries. In the end, classifying them all under Quality Network seemed to mean losing individual program identities. I'm giving the audience a little credit for intelligence, and I'm sure the internal GM people will look for the titles anyway. Thanks again for your generous input. Classification is an issue I debate with myself on almost every index, and you've given me some great criteria to use. Joanne ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:13:25 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Matt Miller Subject: Speed-reading courses? In-Reply-To: <199511201810.KAA04559@mail6> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > RE: differences in rates for heavy and light indexing > > Most of the effort in indexing is in the reading, the construction > of the intellectual framework, and the refining of the structure > and vocabulary. Has anyone had success with speed-reading courses? I have considered this to improve on #1 above since time is money. To improve on #2 and #3 is a different story. Matt Miller memiller@netcom.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:13:46 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Re[2]: Light, Heavy, Short, Long ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I just love this thread! On the one hand, even when you know ahead of time that you're going to go back and make cuts, you can't make them as you go along, because you can't really second-guess the end of the book. On the other hand, putting terms in and later removing them is a bit like digging holes in order to fill them in. Many of the books I index are heavy on personal names, and I've found a technique that seems to let me have my cake and eat it. Especially when space is limited, I try not to have entries like: Kant, Immanuel on transcendental unity, 3, 20 [That one's especially for you, Hazel--knowing how much you love Kant.] In the editing stage, I would cut that entry to Kant, Immanuel, 3, 20 After a while, I discovered that a good 80% of personal-name entries are like that. So . . . here's what I do. When I mark up the page, I highlight the name and write down a subentry on the page. But when I go to key in the name, I enter only the name and the locator--not the sub. (If it's a name that I can guess will come up frequently in the book, then I do enter the subs.) When I'm all done keying in the whole book, a few of those names will have longish locator strings, and I can then go back and pick up the subs very quickly, because they're written on the page. But for all the others, my work is done! (BTW, those subjects, like transcendental unity, are typically entered as main entries and/or as subs under other main entries--so they are still being represented.) Comments? Cheer, Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | Life is good. Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | Milwaukee, WI | ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:14:03 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Linda Hill Subject: Re: Controlled Vocabularies ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Index-L - Greetings On another list, we have been having a discussion about certain metadata issues. The discussion veered off into the area of controlled vocabularies (thesauri) and the following question was posted by a computer-scientist type: >Are there any standard electronic formats for describing a controlled >vocabulary? One of the things I'm working on now is a system that takes >multiple protocols and converts different URC type things into >different formats based on the Dublin Core (i.e. MARC to whois++, SGML >URCs to whois++, SGML URCs to MARC, etc). Controlled vocabulary will >be very important for something like this so serving them should be >a trivial add on.... > I believe the answer to this is "No - there are no standard electronic formats for thesauri" but I want to check with those of you on this list (Index-L) to see if you know about something along this line that I am unaware of. I think it would be a great idea if there were such an electronic format to facilitate the sharing or export/import of thesauri. I would appreciate any comments or referrals. Linda L. Hill Global Change Data Management Working Group College of Lib and Info Services, Univ of Maryland Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences (USRA) 301-286-8875 (Goddard) or 301-345-8904 (beeper access) Fax: 301-286-1777 lhill@usra.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:15:17 ECT Reply-To: jsampson@cix.compulink.co.uk Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: John Sampson Subject: Cindex ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am a user of Cindex, the indexing software produced by Indexing Research. I am wondering if the authors can be contacted by e-mail with questions, wishes etc. Specifically, I want to know whether one can choose punctuation before a 'see also' cross-reference at the end of a run-on list of subheadings. At the moment I can only obtain a period (full stop). Also, if subheadings are run on from the main heading and the main heading has page references, can one follow these with a colon? This is required by a publisher I work for. Any advice gratefully received. _John Sampson_ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:16:20 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Business Web pages ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm now thinking about creating a Web page for my freelance business. I'd love to take a look at other indexers' pages to see what kind of info is included, ideas for links, etc. If you have a business page on the Web you'd like to show off, I'd appreciate taking a look at it--just send me the URL. Thanks y'all. Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | Life is good. Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | Milwaukee, WI | ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:55:50 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Pmauer@aol.com Subject: Re: Cindex ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In a message dated 95-11-27 11:17:36 EST, jsampson@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Sampson) writes: >I am a user of Cindex, the indexing software produced by Indexing >Research. I am wondering if the authors can be contacted by e-mail with >questions, wishes etc. Indexing Research can be contacted by email at IRCINDEX@aol.com. I believe that Frances Lennie also subscribes to this list, so she may respond to you before you get this. Peg Mauer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:57:30 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Nan Badgett <76400.3351@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Checking page numbers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I, too, do a page number check as part of my editing process. Occasionally there is not time to do a complete check. If that's the case, I at least spot check. I usually make a page order sort in Cindex to do this. Sometimes I keep a copy of the original index in alpha order open at the same time so I can check on cross references or other issues I want to double check as I go along. Nan Badgett Word-a-bil-i-ty ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:57:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: REvans4@aol.com Subject: Re: Checking page numbers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I check every number too, though I have recently hired an assistant to do it for me. This has helped me with one client for whom I routinely work on first drafts and never see final drafts until a day or so before delivery. Fortunately, nothing changes but pagination so I do the whole index from first proofs and do the page check after I receive final pagination. Dick Evans ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:57:53 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Fran Freiman Subject: Re: Footnotes and editors (where are the eds?) ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- While Hazel and Sonsie hit the nail on the head about editorial standards (or lack thereof?), all is not lost. I was given an impossible deadline to copyedit the 3rd edition of a 2,000-page book. The editor is young. She wanted a major rewrite. She liked every batch I turned in. I kept eyeing the schedule and knew what I was doing was taking too long. I kept asking, are you sure I'm not editing too heavily. No, the ed wanted the kinks out for the 4th edition. Eventually she brought another copy editor on, and even that proved insufficient. When the schedule proved undoable, she had to bring everyone in the office on board to hurry up and finish. From the get-go I thought the editor was over ambitious, but I could hardly do the rush job I knew would be required. So the 4th edition will be mixed, with some adroit sections, some more lenient, and the rest about par for the course. I felt guilty the whole time I worked on the project, because I knew quantity was needed in this case, and I kept having to turn in quality. How's that for another spin on where the editors are? Fran Freiman ffreiman@ix.netcom.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-Reply Separator-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Fran Freiman, Editor/Owner ffreiman@ix.netcom.com WordRight Editorial Consulting Services 21175 Tomball Pky #293, Houston TX 713-376-4884 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:09:00 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Conroy Subject: Re: Speed-reading courses? In-Reply-To: <199511271544.HAA21316@biggulp.callamer.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Matt, I'm not certain how much good a speed-reading course would do, in terms of speeding up the initial reading and planning phases of an index. I happen to be a fast reader anyway, but the reading technique I use to scan books before preparing an index is really a lot different than what I use when I actually READ a book. I'm lucky in that most of the books I deal with are texts, which have handy heads and subheads, lists, boldfaced terms, and other helps that are invaluable to figuring out the organization of the book. What I do is more "skimming" or "scanning" to pick up these highlights, rather than serious "reading." Books without these nice touchstones do require a more thorough reading, but you are still scanning for important points, proper names, etc., and not reading the way you would read for information. =Sonsie= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:09:15 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Larry Harrison Subject: The WELL ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The URL for their home page is http://www.well.com/ Larry Harrison (larryh@millcomm.com) 507/280-0049 Freelance book indexing Rochester, Minnesota ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:09:29 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Larry Harrison Subject: Re: the WELL ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Mark Leger wrote: >The Well is an Internet Service Provider and happenin' BBS in the San >Francisco Bay Area. It's owned by the the same folks that do the Whole >Earth Catalog and has this eclectic hippie techno-flavor, with (by all >reports) fascinating forums on technology and social transformation. I drop >in on some of their Web sites now and then - for instance, they host the >FactSheet 5 e-zine directory. > >Worth a visit, but there's probably not a whole lot about indexing, though. Au contraire, I am told that Nancy Mulvany hosts an active indexing forum on the WELL. As to access, if you are already on the Internet you can get to them through a shell account access but they require a monthly subscription fee (about $15 I think). Larry Harrison (larryh@millcomm.com) 507/280-0049 Freelance book indexing Rochester, Minnesota ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:09:38 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@aol.com Subject: Name-date index ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm resending this query as I have not received any responses; in fact, I received no list mail for about a week, so perhaps the answers got lost. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone with comments and apologize to those who received the message twice. My next index due from the publisher is a long tome of essays on French history. The publisher suggested I might want to do a "name-date" index. I haven't come across that term yet. (I've been indexing for less than a year.) I'm assuming he means something like: Louis XIV (date), 5 (date2), 15 (date3), 13 with the dates in chronological order. So I'm essentailly indexing references to people based on the time of the occurence given in the text. Am I on track here? I'd appreciate comments from those with experience in this type of index. Fred Leise "Between the Lines" Indexing and Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:09:52 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Robin James Subject: Re: Controlled Vocabularies ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Regarding: standard electronic formats for thesauri My favorite is now a website http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/lex/lctgm/lctgm.html LC Thesaurus for Graphic Material but it has its shortcomings too. See also: http://www.faxon.com/Standards/NISO_Fact_Sheet.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:10:01 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Isawriter@aol.com Subject: Re: Heavy vs. Light Indexing ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Sonsie: You wrote: >>My question still remains...do YOU do this with every book? Does anybody? I probably do this on one out of ten projects, and then I can't recall ever having done it for an entire 750-page book.<< I DO NOT sort every index into page number sequence to check the veracity of my entries. I DO sort those books in which I have caught myself making errors as I am going along. As a neophyte, I am still adjusting as I go, and I am still gaining from the answers on this very interesting thread. Craig Brown :{) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:10:13 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Julie Kawabata Subject: Indexer Web Page ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The URL for my home page is: http://www.teleport.com/~jkawa Gentle critiques welcomed. _______________________________ Julie Kawabata Portland, Oregon jkawa@teleport.com >----------------------------Original message----------------------------- >I'm now thinking about creating a Web page for my freelance business. I'd >love to take a look at other indexers' pages to see what kind of info is >included, ideas for links, etc. If you have a business page on the Web >you'd like to show off, I'd appreciate taking a look at it--just send me >the URL. Thanks y'all. > >Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | Life is good. >Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | >Milwaukee, WI | ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:10:27 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Jonathan Jermey Subject: Re: Business Web pages ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Carol Roberts wrote: >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >I'm now thinking about creating a Web page for my freelance business. I'd >love to take a look at other indexers' pages to see what kind of info is >included, ideas for links, etc. If you have a business page on the Web >you'd like to show off, I'd appreciate taking a look at it--just send me >the URL. Thanks y'all. Ours is more of a personal page, although it does have links to resumes and to our indexing brochure. I put off doing it for weeks and then when I bit the bullet I was surprised at how easy it was. I've kept graphics to a minimum, though. Feel free to browse! The URL can be found in the signature below. Jonathan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Jermey & Glenda Browne (Blue Mountains Desktop Pty Ltd. - ACN 071 232 016) Blaxland NSW Australia jonathan@magna.com.au http://www.magna.com.au/~jonathan Australian Wildlife in the Cheese Shop: "We had some, but the cat's eaten it." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:14:01 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: karen markey drabenstott Subject: Please participate in our study ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- ** Please excuse cross postings!** --PLEASE PARTICIPATE IN OUR STUDY-- Karen Markey Drabenstott and graduate students at the School of Information and Library Studies at the University of Michigan are conducting a study to determine how well library catalog users understand subject headings. This study is supported by OCLC's Library and Information Science Research Grant Program. We are now expanding the study to include public and technical services librarians, and we need your help. We would like you to volunteer to complete a questionnaire that asks you to write down the meaning of listed subject headings. We will compare responses to determine the extent to which there are differences in levels of understanding between three groups of library catalog users (patrons, public services librarians, and technical services librarians). --HOW TO REQUEST A QUESTIONNAIRE-- Please help us out by requesting a questionnaire. We will send you a questionnaire and a self-addressed, stamped envelope in which to return your completed questionnaire. We would like volunteers to have a masters degree in library science and experience in public and/or technical services librarianship. Please send an electronic mail message to ssimcox@umich.edu and include in your message the following information: -Your name. -Your library's mailing address. -Your job title. -The name of the library school from which you graduated. -Your electronic mail address. -Your phone number at work. We will then send you a questionnaire and self-addressed, stamped envelope and request that you return the completed questionnaire in the enclosed envelope by January 31, 1996. --OBJECTIVES OF THE STUDY-- The objectives of this large-scale study of user understanding of subject headings are to determine user understanding of subject headings and identify computer-based techniques for manipulating subject headings to improve user understanding. The study will answer five research questions: 1. To what extent do the various users of library catalogs understand subject headings? 2. Does user understanding vary based on subject heading context? 3. Does user understanding vary based on subject heading form? 4. Are there differences in levels of understanding between the three groups of respondents (patrons, technical services librarians, public services librarians), and in levels of understanding for different forms or contexts of subject headings? 5. What computer-based techniques could be applied to existing files of subject headings to produce subject headings that are more understandable to users? --FURTHER INFORMATION-- For further information about the study, please consult our web page: http://www.umich.edu/~ssimcox/oclcpg.html We thank you for your interest and hope you will consider participation in this large-scale study of user understanding of subject headings. Again, please contact ssimcox@umich.edu if you have any questions. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:29:02 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: PilarW@aol.com Subject: Re: Indexer Web Page ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In a message dated 95-11-28 09:56:59 EST, Julie Kawabata provided her home page url and asked for gentle crisicism: >http://www.teleport.com/~jkawa Julie-- it's beautiful! what a great resource you've provided! I'm posting this here because you deserve the praise. anyone interested in technical idnexing services? Pacific Northwest sites and info? Turkey info? --Julie's place will help you out. kudos, Pilar ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:59:44 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Nancy C. Mulvany" Subject: The WeLL ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- RE: The WeLL The WeLL is a conferencing system and Internet provider based in Sausalito, California with "outposts" (local access numbers) throughout the country. The conferencing system is open only to WeLL subscribers. As noted previously, the WeLL's URL is: http://www.well.com Since 1991 I have hosted the Indexing Conference on the WeLL. Due to lack of activity I do not know how much longer the conference will be around. For the moment, we do have conference Web pages. You can find them at: http://www.well.com/user/nmulvany/index.htm -nancy Nancy Mulvany nmulvany@well.com