========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 13:24:06 ECT Reply-To: shawd Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: shawd Subject: Joy of Indexing ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm co-teaching a class on organization and representation of knowledge and information. We've discussed psychological/cognitive science issues in representation of information and are now moving on to approaches information professionals have taken in organizing and representing information. For class discussion (the students have contributed a great deal to this initial offering of the course) I'd like to hear from indexers and others who bridge this gap between individual and communal constructs of knowledge. What do you find the most difficult part of indexing? What is the most rewarding? Replies may be posted to the list or sent directly to me. Thanks for your help. Debora Shaw School of Library and Information Science Indiana University Internet: shawd@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 13:26:01 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Shore Editorial Services Subject: Re: Q for history buffs ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I think this is a perfect example of why cross-references were invented. I'd probably put the main entry under "student uprising" or "uprising, student," but with cros but with cross-references under the various other names (such as "May 1968 student uprising," "Paris," etc.). Hope this helps. Sincerely, Lys Ann Shore, Shore Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 13:26:24 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Shore Editorial Services Subject: Re: Art indexers? ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I index art books (mostly art history, museum catalogs, occasionally artist biographies) graphies), along with other types of books. Would be glad to correspond on some of the problems peculiar to art-book indexing. Sincerely, Lys Ann Shore ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 13:26:58 ECT Reply-To: Jonathan Jermey Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Jonathan Jermey Subject: G.Browne new address-quoting question ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I recently posted a question about quoting for indexing work, and have received a few replies direct. I am no longer at the Dialix address, so if you are thinking about replying to me direct, please use the new address below. I would be delighted to hear any comments on quoting (charges, procedures, good and bad experiences, etc) from people who have not replied already. My address (which I share with Jonathan Jermey) is: jonathan@magna.com.au Regards, Glenda Browne. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:23:07 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Donnie Curtis Subject: Technical Communication courses on indexing ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm doing a review essay on several books about indexing. The readers of the journal that is publishing the essay are mostly teachers of technical communication or technical writing or professional communication, usually in English depts. though sometimes in colleges of engineering. I myself have a master's degree from one of these programs, but my profession is librarianship. My question to members of the list is whether any of you know of actual courses on indexing that are offered as part of a graduate or undergraduate program in technical communication. Some of the books I'm looking at are textbooks, but seemed geared for library science or information science courses. I'm thinking that maybe I should focus on the nuts & bolts "how-to" books rather than the more theory-oriented textbooks, for my audience, since I don't really think they TEACH indexing, although some of their students may end up DOING indexing, and may come to them in a panic asking for book suggestions. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Thanks in advance... Donnie Curtis dcurtis@lib.nmsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:23:25 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Thanks, history buffs ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Thanks to all who responded to my question about the 1968 student uprising. I'll have to have several entries, I think, even though the uprising is mentioned in only one spot in the text (more than a passing mention, though--darn), so I'll probably have multiple listings (rather than cross-refs) like: student uprising (Paris, 1968) Paris uprising (1968) May 1968 student uprising (Paris) 1968 student uprising (Paris) [although these last two sure look funny to me] Cheers, Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor, e-mail: Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com "There is only one success--to be able to spend your life in your own way." --Christopher Morley ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:23:46 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Dwight Walker Subject: Australian Society of Indexers 1995 Conference details INDEXERS - PARTNERS IN PUBLISHING First International Conference A conference for the indexing professional and the wider publishing community * Indexing from an international perspective * The publisher's point of view * Indexing and the computer * Law indexing * The ethics of indexing * ...and more Friday March 31 to Sunday April 2, 1995 Marysville, Victoria, Australia AUSTRALIAN SOCIETY OF INDEXERS * THE SPEAKERS The conference, organised by the Australian Society of Indexers, will take an international perspective on indexing and will present papers by distinguished speakers from both Australia and overseas. Speakers include: * Prof Victor Prescott, University of Melbourne * Carolyn McGovern, American Society of Indexers * Hanne Albrechsten, Royal School of Librarianship, Denmark * John Nieuwenhuizen, DW Thorpe, Melbourne * Prof Irene Wormell, Royal College of Librarianship, Denmark (Chair FID) * Prof Ken Bakewell, UK * Max McMaster, Melbourne * Barbara Cohen, USA * Elizabeth Moys, UK * THE TOPICS There wil be workshops, forums, panel discussions and a trade exhibition. Conference topics include: * Law indexing * Computer assisted indexing * The publishing perspective * Education for indexing * Image indexing * Indexing and the electronic media * Language control * WHO SHOULD ATTEND? The conference will attract a wide cross section of the publishing industry and will be of interest to indexers, editors, publishers, database producers, historians, archivists, academics and others. * THE VENUE Marysville is a breath of fresh air and only 90 minutes from Melbourne's central business district. Marysville is a holiday and sporting resort that is surrounded by mountains, waterfalls, tree ferns and tall trees. There are walks that cater for everyone from the casual stroller to the enthusiastic bush walker. The Cumberland in Marysville is a popular conference and tourist venue where delegates will be treated to the comforts of home. * AND ALSO... There will be excellent opportunities before and after the conference for groups and individuals to visit publishing, newspaper or indexing organisations in other parts of the country. Or you may wish to spend time visiting more of Australia and meeting its people. * REGISTRATION Registration includes luncheon, dinners, morning and afternoon teas and conference papers. * A discount registration fee of $375 is available for registrations received and paid before 1st March 1995. * For registrations received after this date the fee is $410. * The cost of lunches and dinners for partners accompanying delegates is $125. * The closing date for registration is 24th March 1995. Note: Prices are in Australian dollars. * FURTHER INFORMATION If you require further information contact: Margaret Findlay Conference Organiser 3a Goodall Street, Hawthorn, Victoria, Australia 3122 Tel/Fax: (61 3) 818 1760 email: findlay@acer.edu.au REGISTRATION FORMS Send the form obtained from Margaret Findlay to: Indexers - Partners in Publishing GPO Box 1251, Melbourne, Vic, Australia 3001 NO REGISTRATIONS WILL BE RECEIVED AFTER 24TH MARCH 1995. ================================================================== Dwight Walker dwalker@ozemail.com.au +61-2-3986726 (h) 61-2-4393750 (w) Wed-Fri ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:26:27 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Eric Dahlin Subject: ACH/ALLC '95 ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Please post! My apologies for any duplicate mailings. Eric Dahlin HCF1DAHL@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu ====================================================================== ASSOCIATION FOR COMPUTERS AND THE HUMANITIES ASSOCIATION FOR LITERARY AND LINGUISTIC COMPUTING 1995 JOINT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ACH-ALLC 95 JULY 11-15, 1995 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA CALL FOR PAPERS This conference--the major forum for literary, linguistic and humanities computing--will highlight the development of new computing methodologies for research and teaching in the humanities, the development of significant new computer-based resources for humanities research, especially focusing on the issues and problems of networked access to materials, and the developing applications, evaluation, and use of traditional scientific and computing techniques in humanities disciplines. TOPICS: We welcome submissions on topics and applications focused on the humanities disciplines, defined as broadly as possible: languages and literature, history, philosophy, music, art, linguistics, anthropology and archaeology, creative writing, and cultural studies. We are interested in receiving technical proposals that focus on the cutting edge issues of the application of scientific tools and approaches to humanities disciplines; discipline-based proposals that focus on some of the more traditionally defined applications of computing in humanities disciplines, including text encoding, hypertext, text corpora, computational lexicography, statistical models, and syntactic, semantic, stylistic and other forms of text analysis; broad library and research-based proposals that focus on significant issues of text documentation and information retrieval; and tools-focused proposals that offer innovative and substantial applications and uses for humanities-based teaching and research, throughout the academic and research worlds. The deadline for submissions is 31 DECEMBER 1994. REQUIREMENTS: Proposals should describe substantial and original work. Those that concentrate on the development of new computing methodologies should make clear how the methodologies are applied to research and/or teaching in the humanities, and should include some critical assessment of the application of those methodologies in the humanities. Those that concentrate on a particular application in the humanities (e.g., a study of the style of an author) should cite traditional as well as computer-based approaches to the problem and should include some critical assessment of the computing methodologies used. All proposals should include conclusions and references to important sources. INDIVIDUAL PAPERS: Abstracts of 1500-2000 words should be submitted for presentations of thirty minutes including questions. SESSIONS: Proposals for sessions (90 minutes) are also invited. These should take the form of either: (a) Three papers. The session organizer should submit a 500-word statement describing the session topic, include abstracts of 1000-1500 words for each paper, and indicate that each author is willing to participate in the session; or (b) A panel of up to 6 speakers. The panel organizer should submit an abstract of 1500 words describing the panel topic, how it will be organized, the names of all the speakers, and an indication that each speaker is willing to participate in the session. POSTERS AND DEMONSTRATIONS ACH-ALLC '95 will include poster presentations and software and project demonstrations (either stand-alone or in conjunction with poster presentations) to give researchers an opportunity to present late-breaking results, significant work in progress, well-defined problems, or research that is best communicated in conversational mode. By definition, poster presentations are less formal and more interactive than a standard talk. Poster presenters will have the opportunity to exchange ideas one-on-one with attendees and to discuss their work in detail with those most deeply interested in the same topic. Posters are actually several large pieces of paper that present an overview of a topic or a problem. Poster presenters are given space to display two or three posters, and may provide handouts with examples or more detailed information. Poster presenters must be present at their posters at a specific time during the conference to describe their work and answer questions, but posters will remain up throughout the conference. Specific times will also be assigned for software or project demonstrations. Further information on poster presentations is available from the Program Committee chair. Posters proposals and software and project demonstrations will be accepted until February 15, 1995 to provide an opportunity for submitting very current work that need not be written up in a full paper. Poster or software/project demonstration proposals should contain a 300 to 500 word abstract in the same format described below for paper proposals. Proposals for software or project demonstrations should indic ate the type of hardware that would be required if the proposal is accepted. Doctoral students are encouraged to consider poster submission as a viable means for discussing ongoing dissertation research. FORMAT OF SUBMISSIONS Electronic submissions are strongly encouraged. Please pay particular attention to the format given below. Submissions which do not conform to this format will be returned to the authors for reformatting, or may not be considered if they arrive very close to the deadline. All submissions should begin with the following information: TITLE: title of paper AUTHOR(S): names of authors AFFILIATION: of author(s) CONTACT ADDRESS: full postal address E-MAIL: electronic mail address of main author (for contact), followed by other authors (if any) FAX NUMBER: of main author PHONE NUMBER: of main author (1) Electronic submissions These should be plain ASCII text files, not files formatted by a wordprocessor, and should not contain TAB characters or soft hyphens. Paragraphs should be separated by blank lines. Headings and subheadings should be on separate lines and be numbered. Notes, if needed at all, should take the form of endnotes rather than footnotes. References, up to six, should be given at the end. Choose a simple markup scheme for accents and other characters that cannot be transmitted by electronic mail, and include an explanation of the markup scheme after the title information and before the start of the text. Electronic submissions should be sent to Elaine Brennan with the subject line " Submission for ACH-ALLC95". (2) Paper submissions Submissions should be typed or printed on one side of the paper only, with ample margins. Six copies should be sent to ACH-ALLC95 (Paper submission) Elaine Brennan ATLIS Consulting Group 6011 Executive Boulevard Rockville, MD 20852 USA EQUIPMENT AVAILABILITY Presenters will have available an overhead projector, a Kodak slide projector, a data projector which will display Macintosh, DOS/Windows, and video (but not simultaneously), a computer which will run Macintosh OS programs or DOS/Windows programs, and a VHS (NTSC) videocassette recorder. PAL format will be available; if you anticipate needing PAL, please note this information in your proposal. It will be possible to transfer programs and data from removable media (floppy disks, SyQuest 44MB cartridges, and Bernoulli cartridges) to the presentation computers. Requests for other presentation equipment will be considered by the local organizer; requests for special equipment should be directed to the local organizer no later than December 31, 1994. DEADLINES Proposals for papers and sessions December 31, 1994 Proposals for poster presentations February 15, 1995 Notification of acceptance March 15, 1995 PUBLICATION A selection of papers presented at the conference will be published in the series Research in Humanities Computing edited by Susan Hockey and Nancy Ide and published by Oxford University Press. INTERNATIONAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE Proposals will be evaluated by a panel of reviewers who will make recommendations to the Program Committee comprised of: Chair: Elaine Brennan, ATLIS Consulting Group (ACH) Marilyn Deegan, Oxford University (ALLC) Gordon Dixon, Manchester Metropolitan University (ALLC) Marianne Gaunt, Rutgers University (ACH) Susan Hockey, Rutgers and Princeton Universities (ALLC) Nancy Ide, Vassar College (ACH) Espen Ore, University of Bergen (ALLC) Willard McCarty, University of Toronto (ACH) Local Organizer: Eric Dahlin, University of California, Santa Barbara (ACH) LOCATION UC Santa Barbara, one of the nine campuses of the University of California, has an enrollment of some 18000 graduate and undergraduate students and is situated on a scenic 500 acre seashore campus 10 miles north of the city of Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara, a Southern California coastal community of 80,000 population, lies about 100 miles north of Los Angeles on Highway 101, the principal coast highway between Los Angeles and San Francisco. A popular tourist center, it offers the visitor a wide range of accommodations and a great variety of recreational and cultural attractions. It is readily accessible by road, and is served by the major airlines. Economically priced accommodation for those attending the conference will also be available on the campus itself. It is expected at this time that the fee for early registration for the conference will be in the $125 to $150 range, with an additional fee for late registration. Detailed information about the conference will be made available in January or February of 1995. For further information please communicate with: Eric Dahlin Local Organizer, ACH/ALLC '95 Office of the Provost College of Letters and Science University of California Santa Barbara, California 93106 USA Phone: 805/687-5003 E-mail: HCF1DAHL@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu Note: ===== Information about the conference will be circulated on the e-list: reach@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu To subscribe to the list, send an ordinary e-mail message containing the single line: subscribe reach "your name" with your own name, not your e-mail address, in place of "your name," without the quotation marks, to the address: listserv@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu ====================================================================== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 13:50:24 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carolyn Weaver Subject: Subcontracting rates ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm getting ready to bid on a very large project (a retrospective index to a weekly newspaper) that will probably require subcontracting part of the work to get it finished in a reasonable period of time. I intend to quote a per-entry rate (based on doing a sample) that would be equivalent to my regular hourly rate. If I do end up sub-contracting, it will be on the assumption that the subcontractors would give me a Cindex file of their work, and that I would do the final merge and edit (which normally runs 20-30% of the time required to create the original entries) and deliver the finished index. Subcontractors would be paid a per-entry rate 15-20% lower than what I charge to the client, with the difference being my fee for the merge and edit. My question to those who have been involved in such a large project (on either side of the equation): Is this a reasonable scenario for doing a bid which involves subcontracting? Any bear-traps I need to be aware of (other than being very specific with the client on the scope of the work)? All advice welcome! Carolyn Weaver Bellevue, Wa. e-mail: cweaver@u.washington.edu voice: 206/930-4348 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:03:25 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Dr.ssa Luisella Romeo" Subject: information request ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- My name is Luisella Romeo and I have just subscribed to INDEX-L. I am interested in indexing especially as it relates to hypertext and multimedia works. I would like to know if any of you can give me some information about societies of indexers in Italy that offer training in indexing and --possibly, not necessarily-- hypertextual systems. Thank you very much, Luisella Romeo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:03:45 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Jean Lutz Subject: Re: Technical Communication courses on indexing In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 25 Oct 94 19:20:09 EST from ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hi, I don't teach indexing, but I should. My students all do at least one piece of print documentation during a graduate seminar in technical writing. I firmly believe that all documentation (except quick refs) ought to have indices but I haven't found time or a good resource for teaching it. Your idea about nuts and bolts sounds good--but you could introduce the nuts and bolts or follow them with a bit of theory. Good luck.