========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 16:28:25 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Paula Presley Subject: Free Internet Connections In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of WED 22 DEC 1993 13:01:42 CST ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Over the holdays, at a relative's house, I happened to see in a fairly recent PC Magazine, the instructions for who to call in Washington, D.C. (an 800 number) to get free Internet connectivity for folks not attached to an institution with Internet connectivity. Has anybody out there seen this info? It was toward the front of the magazine, in one of those little yellow boxes near the top of a page. The whole issue of the magazine was more or less devoted to Internet and that sort of thing. (Ye gads, one would never know I hold an MLIS, the way I describe this!) In fact, it's possible the information was in a PC World Magazine--the same relative subscribed to that, too. Paula Presley Assoc. Editor, The Thomas Jefferson University Press Copy Editor, The Sixteenth Century Journal Northeast Missouri State University McClain Hall 111L Kirksville, MO 63501 (816) 785-4525 FAX (816) 785-4181 Bitnet: AD15@NEMOMUS Internet: AD15%NEMOMUS@Academic.NEMOState.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 16:30:50 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: bob wallace Subject: Gratitude ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I know this won't be posted until after Jan. 4, but: Yesterday (12/26) marks six months from the time I quit my salaried job to become a full-time freelance indexer. I just want to say how grateful I am to all the great folks on this list who helped me (and continue to help me). Thanks Barbara, Cammie, Charlotte, Jessica, Nancy, Tom, Jeff, and many, many others. When I needed to make that decision to get out of a career and creative rut, there was such an outpouring of support from the subscribers to this list. I just hope you know how important y'all are to beginners like me. And in case you were wondering, business is great. I have had very steady work, and I'm enjoying indexing very much. Freelancing is very much what I expected. I also enjoy getting to spend more time with my kids (two girls, ages 20 mos. and 8 yrs.). Cheers, Carol Roberts, FREELANCE INDEXER AND COPY EDITOR! rw16@cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 16:31:33 ECT Reply-To: Carolyn Weaver Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carolyn Weaver Subject: Washington State Indexers' Meeting ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- WHERE: Bellevue Regional Library Meeting Room 4 1111 - 110th Avenue Northeast Bellevue, Washington WHEN: Wednesday, January 12, 1994 Noon - 2 p.m. (Bring a brown bag lunch!) [NOTE: The January 19 date announced in the last issue of KEYNOTES is an error. See you on the 12th instead! TOPIC: Discussion of the rapidly developing electronic information highway - what it holds for indexers, how it will help us, and how to get connected to the Internet. All indexers who have ventured into the electronic medium, who have a point of view about it, or who have very basic questions are urged to participate. QUESTIONS? For directions to the library, call Carolyn Weaver at 206/930-4348 or send an e-mail message to cweaver@u.washington.edu. For meeting program suggestions, call Elspeth Pope at 206/427-0760. (She's not available on e-mail.) Finally, I am compiling an e-mail distribution list for Washington state indexers. If you Washington state INDEX-L subscribers will send me your e-mail addresses, I'll avoid inflicting future local meeting announcements on the list as a whole. Carolyn Weaver Seattle e-mail: cweaver@u.washington.edu voice: 206/930-4348 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 10:55:16 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Jeff Finlay, aka H-Amstdy Co-Moderator" Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: Free Internet Connections ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > Over the holdays, at a relative's house, I happened to see in a fairly > recent PC Magazine, the instructions for who to call in Washington, D.C. > (an 800 number) to get free Internet connectivity for folks not attached > to an institution with Internet connectivity. > > Has anybody out there seen this info? Paula, I don't know if this is related to it. It may not be so desirable after all--Jeff: >From: IN%"AFAM-L@MIZZOU1.BITNET" "African-American Research" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 16:18:44 -0500 From: "Scott A. Ward 703-614-4719" Subject: Warning: International Internet Association A company calling itself the International Internet Association, and billing itself as "the largest non-profit provider of free Internet access in the world" has started advertizing in the Washington, D.C. area, and offering free Internet accounts to individuals who will FAX them, among other things, a credit card number. As an active member of the Member Council of the National Capital Area Public Access Network (CapAccess), I wanted to find more about this organization that supposedly has offices NOT THREE BLOCKS FROM CAPACCESS. Here's the result of my search for the IIA. 1. Their address, listed as "Suite 852 - 202 Pennsylvania Ave, N.W. Washington D.C. 20006", is actually a post office box at Mailboxes, Etc. 2. The company lists no incorporation, trademark or service-mark licenses. 3. They claim your E-mail address would be @iia.org. However: a. No iia.org is listed in the hq.af.mil hosts table b. No iia.org is listed in the acq.osd.mil hosts table c. No iia.org is listed is the INTERNIC 'whois' database d. No iia.org is listed using the INTERNIC 'netfind' Internet lookup In other words, IIA.ORG does NOT, at this time, exist. 4. Although they apologize profusely in the application, they state that "Without receiving a credit card number, the IIA _cannot_ process an account." 5. Although I have left a message on their voice-mail system, I have received no response from them. (they also apologize in the voice mail that, due to demand, they are operating at a 3-week backlog for applications.) I cannot judge an organization in advance. However, I do think it highly suspicious that, to use their propaganda, "The International Internet Association is able to make this service available through generous private donations, and the extraordinary dedication of its membership." I can say that I am not convinced this organization exists, and highly discourage any Internet user from sending information until you make certain that the IIA is real. Scott Ward (703) 614-4719 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vice-Chair, Public Relations Volunteer Service Manager (VSM) National Capital Area Public CapAccess Community Center Access Network (CapAccess) communit@cap.gwu.edu sward@cap.gwu.edu "go community" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 10:55:54 ECT Reply-To: jeannet141@aol.com Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: jeannet141@aol.com Subject: Re: Free Internet Connec... ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Yes, I live in the Virgin Islands and we also got the notice about the free connection. However, it doesn't seem to be free after all (what is?) Someone who finally got in touch with the people running the ad said thathe was told thatere is a charge of 20cents per minute for the 800 number. At least, this is what I heard. Perhaps someone else has better information--- we in the Virgin Islands are unfortunately not connected to Internet (except through commercial services). We are not happy about it and are trying to find ways to get connected --- all ideas are welcome.. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 10:56:30 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Linda Musser -- Penn State (814-863-7073)" Organization: Penn State University / University Libraries Subject: Re: Free Internet Connections - BEWARE! In-Reply-To: Your message <01H7BW2SIDMQ04A1A1@psulias.psu.edu> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- If the ad was for a group by the name of International Internet Association be advised that there has been a posting on the ASIS-L listserv by Rowan Fairgrove (George Wash. U.) about his investigation of this organization. He has been unable to contact them by phone, their address is a post office box, and their internet node does not check out. The org. is asking for credit card numbers before setting up an account. I would be happy to forward the full text of his message if anyone wants to read it. Linda Musser Penn State ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 13:01:08 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Dave Pokorney Subject: Re: Free Internet Connections In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 6 Jan 1994 11:38:44 EST from Further info on free internet access company (?) Viewer discretion? ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Folks, Although I think it is unwise to give out any credit card information over the wire as requested in the original post, the iia.org *is* listed at the Internic contrary to what is reported in the warning below.. The point of contact for the iia.org domain is Charleen Bochicchio phone +1 202 387 5446 (Highland Park, NJ, not Washington D.C.!) The query result fron the Internic is included below fyi. Be CAREFUL when conducting any business over the wire! -dave pokorney -- Script started on Thu Jan 6 09:54:42 1994 name% nslookup Default Server: ufl.edu Address: 128.227.128.24 > set type=any > iia.org Server: ufl.edu Address: 128.227.128.24 Non-authoritative answer: iia.org nameserver = MARY.IIA.ORG iia.org nameserver = NS.UU.NET Authoritative answers can be found from: MARY.IIA.ORG inet address = 198.4.75.9 NS.UU.NET inet address = 137.39.1.3 > exit name% whois -h rs.internic.net iia.org International Internet Association (IIA2-DOM) 30 South First Avenue Highland Park, NJ 08904 Domain Name: IIA.ORG Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Bochicchio, Charleen (CB45) char@JOY.ICM.COM +1 202 387 5445 (FAX) +1 202 387 5446 Record last updated on 01-Dec-93. Domain servers in listed order: MARY.IIA.ORG 198.4.75.9 NS.UU.NET 137.39.1.3 The InterNIC Registration Services Host ONLY contains Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. name% exit name% script done on Thu Jan 6 09:56:15 1994 - ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:42:15 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Paula Presley Subject: Re[2]: Free Internet Connections In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of THU 06 JAN 1994 12:09:34 CST ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Thanks for all the info about the "free" 800 number. Karen Riley (karen@ansoft.com) was kind enough to fax me a copy of the application. If enough people are interested, I'll try to scan and upload it within the next week or so (faxes don't scan well here). Yes, there is a charge of 20 cents per min. on the 800 number; but if you dial direct, they don't make that charge (your long distance carrier charges you.)I suspect this is what it will come to for all of us: no free lunch...so, how valuable IS Internet to all of us? Personally, I'd be willing to have some of my taxes pay for universal access (as oppossed to some of the things for which my taxes are now spent). The rub with this company is that--whether you subscribe or not--you need a credit card. My interest was for my daughter, who is attending a community college without student access. I had hoped that she could have free access to use the Internet as students at Universities have--but she has no credit card, nor does she have a long distance carrier (she's cutting corners wherever she can to get through her training). Right now she borrows a friend's access to get what she needs, but that is cumbersome. Agains, thanks for all the info Paula Presley Assoc. Editor, The Thomas Jefferson University Press Copy Editor, The Sixteenth Century Journal Northeast Missouri State University McClain Hall 111L Kirksville, MO 63501 (816) 785-4525 FAX (816) 785-4181 Bitnet: AD15@NEMOMUS Internet: AD15%NEMOMUS@Academic.NEMOState.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:43:35 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: MaryEllen Read Subject: USDA Correspondence Program ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am very interested in getting into indexing, eventually to get to freelance. Before getting on this list I've only done a small index using WP51. i have some major, basic questions. What is the general reputation of the USDA correspondence program ($269) for indexers? Is this a worthwhile program? Has anyone done it? What are the alternatives that someone would recommend? What formal or informal training have you had as as indexer? And do you have any "must do's" or "avoid this" experiences? Thanks for any and all input. I will make a list of the answers if anyone else is interested. It might turn out to be an interesting profile of the professional on the list. Thanks. Maryellen Read mread@creighton.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:44:22 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Robert Lee Hadden, US Geological Survey Library" Subject: Selected Water Resources Abstracts- Update ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- This note is being cross-posted to Geonet-L; Libref-L; Index-L and Pacs-L. My apologies for any duplication. Select Water Resources Abstracts (also known as: SWRA or WRA), will be indexed by both Cambridge Scientific Abstracts and NISC, and will be commercially available in several formats. Both companies will be offering the Water Resources Abstracts information, but with different enhancements and different software. For further information, please contact the publishers: Cambridge Scientific Abstracts NISC Ted Caris, Publisher Fred Durr 7200 Wisconsin Avenue Suite 6, Wyman Towers Bethesda, MD 20814 USA 3100 St. Paul Street Tel: (301) 961-6755 Baltimore, MD 21218 USA CAMBRIDGE.SCIENTIFIC/OMNET TEL: (410) 243-0797 FAX: (410) 243-0982 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:51:26 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Joe Tallet Subject: Re: Free Internet Connections ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- You failed to point out, in your free internet memo, that their asking for a credit card number should immediately raise flags. Even without checking into their background, one should be thinking - credit card fraud. jot ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:59:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: MaryEllen Read Subject: ASI e-address American Society of Indexers ph 512 749-4052 FAX 512 749-4052 (is this right? I don't know) e-mail asi@well.sf.ca.us [Moderator's note: Thanks, MaryEllen, the fax no. is not right...it should be 512-749-6334. I have corrected the FAQ. I need you folks to proof my work! :) ] ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 10:42:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "[CKatie Izat" <100265.2771@CompuServe.COM> Subject: UK SUBSCRIBERS Can someone please advise how I can get hold of a list of UK subscribers to Index-L? Thanks, Katie Izat [Moderator's note: You can receive a list of subscribers to index-l by sending the following message to listserv@bingvmb: review index-l noheader to receive a list with countries: review index-l countries noheader if you send the message without "noheader" you will recieve a list which includes information about the purpose, etc. of index-l.]